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Koga ucev skolo u Makedonija, citavme mnogu lektiri koi ne ucea za naseto minato kako "Kales Anga", ``Kniga za Goce``, ``Beloto Cigance``, ``Volsebnoto Samarce``, ``Srebrenite Snegovi`` kako i za slavniot ni krvnik Josip Broz-Tito koj za zal seuste se slavi. Se citase. No ne se citashe niedna kniga za Aleksandar Veliki vecna da mu e slavata.
Lektira koja mi ostavi takov golem vpecatok e ``Srebrenite Snegovi`` od Zivko Cingo bidejki ni go otslikuva periodot 1918-1948, kako eden od najlosite za Makedoncite, kako losite dobivaat se sto ke posakaat i negovata losa poraka da go prifatime kako takov i zivotot, deka samo zloto ke nadvladee a ne dobrinata.
Da bidneme samo edno stado bez ovcar.
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04-01-2010, 03:46 AM
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Mnogu me raduva toa sto Ministerstvoto za Kultura na RM najde sila da napravi film od knigata na Zivko Cingo "Golema Voda", ke me raduva uste ako nekoj go videl.
05-01-2010, 07:02 PM
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No sepak, mislam deka treba da se ekranizira "Srebrenite Snegovi" ne poradi toa sto e napisana od Zivko Cingo tuku poradi ke ni ja objasni podobro segasnosta vo koja sme zaglaveni i od koja ne treba da begame, tuku treba da se soocime treba da go razbereme podobro toa nase mracno minato.
Toa mracno minato koga necesnite gi postavija za direktori, minato koe ne ubiva vo sekoj pogled, minato koe se obide da ja ubie cesta pa i dobrinata vo nas.
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Imeno samata dilema kako da se spravime so losoto samiot Zivko Cingo go otslikuva mnogu dobro, glavniot lik vo knigata se dvoumi dali da go ubie zajakot koj vo srebrenite snegovi trca.
Se prisetuva na svoeto detstvo, mladost koga zaedno so negoviot prijatel od selo otisle zaedno na pecalba vo Amerika, rabotejki na zeleznicata. Vo sekoj mig na zivotot na svojot prijatel glavniot lik si velel dali sega si ja nasol ulogata vo zivotot. Potoa go opisuva periodot na Prvata Svetska vojna kade kako vojnik vo Srpskata vojska toj sluzel a negovoto semejstvo stradalo.
Potoa dojde vremeto na Vtorata svetska vojna i go videl svojot prijatel kade kako marsiral prvo so Kralevata vojska a potoa so partizanite, a po vojnata pocnal da gradi kuka od pcenka, a toj zavrsil vo mnogu losa sostojba.
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Eve go kritickiot natpis za "Golema Voda":

Posted: Wed., Nov. 17, 2004, 1:14pm PTPrint Talk BackEmail or ShareAFI
The Great Water
Golemata Voda (Macedonia - Czech Republic - Slovak Republic)
By ROBERT KOEHLERRead other reviews about this film

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An Artis 3/the World Circle Foundation/Kaval Film production with the participation of Artreal Ltd. Bratislava. Produced by Mile Arsovski, Ivo Trajkov, Vladimir Chrenovsky, Robert Jazadziski, Suki Medencevic. Directed by Ivo Trajkov. Screenplay, Vladimir Blazevski, Trajkov, based on the novel by Zivko Cingo.

Lem Nikodinoski
(as boy) - Saso Kekenovski
Isak - Maja Stankovska
Ariton - Mitko Apostolovski
Olivera - Verica Nedeska
Bellman - Risto Gogovski
Ariton's Wife - Nikolina Kujaca
Lem (as old man) - Meto Jovanovski
A dying politician's memories of surviving a Stalinist prison camp form the heart of the vivid and visceral "The Great Water," latest in a wave of East European films considering the Communist era. Czech writer-helmer Ivo Trajkov ("The Past") extends his well-developed felicity with sound and image while diving into a specifically Macedonian tale, based on the book of the same title by Zivko Cingo, one of the country's major post-war novelists. Extraordinary perfs by a mostly young cast likely will be cancelled out by the grim subject. Still, fest berths for Macedonia's official Oscar entry will be plentiful.
The image of an eye in ultra close-up is followed by Macedonian pol Lem Nikodinoski (Meto Jovanovski) rushed to the ER with a heart attack. He sees himself going back to a remote, dilapidated prison camp on the marshy coastline of one of Macedonia's large southern lakes, where as a young orphan (Saso Kekenovski, in a stunning debut) after WWII he was dumped along with hundreds of other cast off youths.

"I was a scared little mouse," Lem recalls (in English narration for the international version, spoken gracefully by Rade Serbedzija), and the casual brutalities of the camp create a terrifying milieu steeped in hopelessness.

Camp warden Ariton (Mitko Apostolovski) appears to be the ideal Stalinist strongman, and prefers being called "Daddy." His aide-de-camp Olivera (Verica Nedeska) revels in a culture of punishment and crude political indoctrination when she isn't sculpting a bust of Stalin on her free time.

True to form of political prisonhood tales, a strange outsider eventually turns the camp's steady order upside down. Isak (a boy played by teen girl thesp Maja Stankovska) at first refuses to even acknowledge Lem, but eventually accepts the young boy's interest, making him a blood brother. Isak is perhaps an excessively heavy-handed symbol of the film's themes of spiritual (and Christian) liberation in the midst of oppression, but the boy's actions carry an almost spectral power greatly enhanced by gifted Los Angeles-based d.p. Suki Medencevic, who gives the film a breathtaking beauty and texture that's rare in most recent East Euro cinema.

"The Great Water" may deliver no new insights on the worst aspects of Communist oppression (particularly the long-familiar gap between the rhetoric of freedom and the reality of imprisonment), but pic's balance of emotional truth in the hands of a talented cast and charged by Medencevic's lensing and Kiril Dzajkovski's powerfully moody score, reps a bold step forward for Balkan cinema.

Proving himself a master of widescreen mise en scene, Trajkov seemlessly weaves style and content to create epic moments out of intimate situations.

Camera (Boyana Film color, Moviecam widescreen), Suki Medencevic; editor, Atanas Georgiev; music, Kiril Dzajkovski; production designer, Kemal Hrustanovic; art directors, Kiril Spaseski, Natasa Dimitrievska; costume designer, Zaklina Krstevska; sound (Dolby Digital), Nenad Vukadinovic, Georgiev; sound designers, Vladimir Chrenovsky, Petr Penzes-Gyuricky; visual effects supervisor, Miso Ristov; visual effects, XXX Studio Skopje; associate producer, Petra Kolevska; assistant director, Filip Cemerski; English translation, Aleksandar Zafirovski; second unit director, Petra Seliskar; second unit camera, Brand Ferro; casting, Trajkov. Reviewed at AFI Los Angeles Festival, Nov. 13, 2004. Running time: 94 MIN.



Narrator: Rade Serbedzija.



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15-03-2010, 10:19 PM
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Samite karakteri vo taa kniga ja kazuvaat teskata moralna kriza kaj samite niv.Glavniot lik se bori so demonot vo nego,bidejki go gleda zloto kako pobeduva okolu nego.Likot koj ni se opisuva e i negativecot,no toj propesperira,negoviot moral e mnogu nizok.Istiot takov problem e otslikan vo "Goli Otok" kade zatvorenikot svojot zivot i makotrpna borba go dal na eden drug oltar za edna druga borba-Sloboda i Makedonija,dodeka glavniot lik vo "Srebreniot Sneg" se borel za svoj podobar zivot,da doceka den koga doma ke go preceka kuka polna so deca,koga ke znae deka zivotot mu e siguren, a ne nesiguren.
Vo "Srebrenite Snegovi" ni e dadena slikata na obicniot Makedonec,niz burnite nastani 1918-1948, i losata rakija koja ja pijat sita Makedonci,koja e dosta gorcliva za site nas.
"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future." -- George Orwell
"Тој што ја контролира сегашноста,тој го контролира минатото.Тој што го контролира минатото ја контролира иднината." Џорџ Орвел
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26-12-2010, 02:31 AM
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Vo edna druga kniga,od drug avtor "Zlostorstvo i Kazna" od Fjodor Dostoevski,glavniot junak Raskolnikov istotaka dozivuva edna teska moralna kriza,no za razlika od glavniot lik vo "Srebrenite Snegovi"Raskolnikov ja ubiva starata dama kaj koja zalozuva svoi dragocenosti so cel da opstane,a istotaka za negova nesreka ja ubiva i nejzinata sestra Lizaveta.
Raskolnikov,celo vreme ke go jade sovesta zosto go napravil toa zlodelo,dodeka glavniot lik na Zivko Cingo ednostavno ke odluci da go prifati zivotot kakov sto e.
Vo "Zlostorstvo i Kazna",avtorot Dostoevski saka da go iscisti Raskolnikov od bilo kakva odgovornost za storenoto delo,velejki deka za toa opstestvoto e krivo,bidejki negovata teska ekonomska polozba go naterala toa zlostorstvo da go napravi.
No dali treba da go prifatime zivotot kakov sto e stoicki i namesto nasiot razum za borba da preovlada zivotinskiot instinktit?Treba li da bideme slepi na toa sto se slucuva okolu nas,ili pak treba da nadvladeele coveckoto vo nas?
"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future." -- George Orwell
"Тој што ја контролира сегашноста,тој го контролира минатото.Тој што го контролира минатото ја контролира иднината." Џорџ Орвел
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"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future." -- George Orwell
"Тој што ја контролира сегашноста,тој го контролира минатото.Тој што го контролира минатото ја контролира иднината." Џорџ Орвел
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(30-12-2011, 12:11 AM)basilius_2 Wrote:


Филмот е многу добар! Македонија за својата големина прави прилично добри филмови. Се сеќавам кога го рентирав во Blockbuster пред неколку години, тогаш имаше само 3 филма од Балканот и сите беа македонски - Пред дождот, Илузија и Големата вода.
Но сакам да ја истакнам преубавата музика во овој филм на Кирил Џајковски - исто се добри сцените околу истата. На пример види ја сцената околу 14 и 17 минута и онаа околу 1:04 - тие ми се омилени, многу добро.
Бензинoт e ваш, a идејите наши.
О. Б.
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